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Post by perficad on Sept 6, 2022 11:33:40 GMT -5
Hi all,
Just a quick question as I cannot easily find the answer, as I'm debating which P3D version to buy, to finally make the leap from FSX. Are FSX traffic bgl files compatible with v4 and or V5? If not , are they easily convertible?
Any recommendations for which P3D version to obtain to keep my world full of retro AI? This is why I'm not choosing Msfs
Thanks!
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Post by bensplanes on Sept 6, 2022 13:28:45 GMT -5
FSX traffic files will work just fine in P3D. Generally speaking, most FSX things are compatible with P3D v5 with the exception of some sceneries and airplanes. However, when it comes to Retro AI, the only real change is that you need to make sure your airplanes and traffic files are not FS9 native. They will not appear in sim if they aren't FSX or 64 bit native. Besides this, the best P3D version for you is going to be the one that will run the best on your system. V5 comes with a lot of nice things but requires some hefty specs to run comfortably alongside AI.
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Post by perficad on Sept 6, 2022 22:42:51 GMT -5
FSX traffic files will work just fine in P3D. Generally speaking, most FSX things are compatible with P3D v5 with the exception of some sceneries and airplanes. However, when it comes to Retro AI, the only real change is that you need to make sure your airplanes and traffic files are not FS9 native. They will not appear in sim if they aren't FSX or 64 bit native. Besides this, the best P3D version for you is going to be the one that will run the best on your system. V5 comes with a lot of nice things but requires some hefty specs to run comfortably alongside AI. Thanks very much for this info! The airplanes I can live with since slowly they will be converted to fsx. But the traffic files situation concerns me.. will ttools files no longer work? If not what app converts them? |
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Post by bensplanes on Sept 7, 2022 5:19:20 GMT -5
AI Flight Planner (AIFP) works great in compiling traffic files as FSX native. It also can convert FS9 traffic files to FSX format.
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Post by perficad on Sept 7, 2022 12:02:51 GMT -5
AI Flight Planner (AIFP) works great in compiling traffic files as FSX native. It also can convert FS9 traffic files to FSX format. Makes sense. Never made a bgl using aifp but worth checking out. Regarding P3D version if I buy a new PC capable of running V5 I don't see any reason not to aim for the newest version rather than going for older? I'm in the process of getting new hardware hence why this sudden desire to upgrade my flight sim a the same time has cropped up. |
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Post by bensplanes on Sept 7, 2022 12:44:17 GMT -5
Of course, I'm just suggesting it because the choice between V4 and V5 really depends on the machine. Both deliver the same AI experience, V5 just looks better. Alongside the other hardware details, I heavily suggest getting a graphics card with at least 8 GB of VRAM. I run modest-high P3D graphics settings and combining limited traffic (only about 60 active airplanes), scenery, and a nice personal aircraft, I run between 6 and 7 GB of used memory in certain areas. It just gives you a little bit of wiggle room.
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Post by chasensfo on Sept 7, 2022 14:40:47 GMT -5
v5, 100000%. The performance is MUCH MUCH better which is so important for AI since it's very intense on your system to load all that traffic. Load times are also very fast compared to FS9 thru P3Dv4 even with thousands of models/textures to load at start up.
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Post by perficad on Sept 7, 2022 19:50:58 GMT -5
v5, 100000%. The performance is MUCH MUCH better which is so important for AI since it's very intense on your system to load all that traffic. Load times are also very fast compared to FS9 thru P3Dv4 even with thousands of models/textures to load at start up. This is what I thought but I'm surprised since many argue to go for v4 but many other article's state v5 loads faster and performs better. Both cannot be true, which is a mystery! |
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Post by chasensfo on Sept 7, 2022 22:03:47 GMT -5
I have not touched v4 once since I installed v5 lol
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Post by perficad on Sept 8, 2022 21:15:29 GMT -5
Well I can clarify my first experience of P3Dv5 is that, unsurprisingly, given it was my same experience with FSX back in the day, most stuff written online about using AI traffic for it is incorrect. Almost everything works from FSX just dropped in to the P3Dv5 directories, including aircraft, ttools traffic files and ADE files. Yes- there are some errors and problems that need to be ironed out due to compatibility, but for all those who state "nothing is compatible in P3Dv5" its not true. Very worthwhile the upgrade
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Post by bensplanes on Sept 9, 2022 5:37:06 GMT -5
Excellent to hear!
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Post by perficad on Sept 10, 2022 6:56:14 GMT -5
My upgrade / conversion process has gone well so far but there doesn't seem to be any AI A300 or DC-10 available for P3D sadly. So I've now got to strip these out of my flightplans and replace with the Tom / Thomas Ruth models.
Also - the qualify of the default airports is so bad - I'm putting many FSX default airports back in including my fsx ade files. Plus these better represent the Retro era. I will recopy all of these onto my OneDrive in updated version so anyone can use them in P3D.
Visually however and performance wise the new SIM is fantastic.
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Post by eth72s on Sept 10, 2022 7:24:54 GMT -5
My upgrade / conversion process has gone well so far but there doesn't seem to be any AI A300 or DC-10 available for P3D sadly. So I've now got to strip these out of my flightplans and replace with the Tom / Thomas Ruth models. Also - the qualify of the default airports is so bad - I'm putting many FSX default airports back in including my fsx ade files. Plus these better represent the Retro era. I will recopy all of these onto my OneDrive in updated version so anyone can use them in P3D. Visually however and performance wise the new SIM is fantastic. TFS A300 is converted. www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=27101.0 |
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Post by bensplanes on Sept 10, 2022 7:31:09 GMT -5
Many FS2004 era aircraft have been converted to P3D native format at the hands of multiple people. The AIG forum has most of them but mikeblaze is hosting many converted aircraft on his website, not to mention AVSIM. I do believe there is a file on AVSIM which has all the DC-10s converted as well. Chasen has a thread on the forum somewhere which has many links for converted models.
AIG's OCI is also a good source for PBR and converted models.
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Post by perficad on Sept 10, 2022 8:21:14 GMT -5
My upgrade / conversion process has gone well so far but there doesn't seem to be any AI A300 or DC-10 available for P3D sadly. So I've now got to strip these out of my flightplans and replace with the Tom / Thomas Ruth models. Also - the qualify of the default airports is so bad - I'm putting many FSX default airports back in including my fsx ade files. Plus these better represent the Retro era. I will recopy all of these onto my OneDrive in updated version so anyone can use them in P3D. Visually however and performance wise the new SIM is fantastic. TFS A300 is converted. www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=27101.0Amazing - thanks for this link!! Works perfect - A300 back in. Now just those troublesome AIM 10's to go.... Also any idea how to get the HJG models working? |
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