LFPO add-on scenery

[pms707]

Hi All:

For a film project I am doing, I need good Paris Orly scenery for FSX, where the detail of the main terminal is exceptional. Both Jetstreams LFPO and Aerosoft Mega have the required look. Am wondering what anyone here using FSX has experienced with add-on airports from either of these manufacturers. My concerns are:

1. Frame rates
2. Will FS9 native models appear with ground shadows turned on -- or even at all depending on how runway/ground textures are formatted
3. Customizable airport vehicles, jetway logos and styles, etc.

My goal would be to strip the scenery down to the basics and make it look as 1968 as possible. Yes of course this would mean deleting the entire second terminal area, but that can be conveniently excluded from any screen captures. I can't find any explanation of the extent to which one can customize the Jetstream version, although customizability is one of their listed selling points.

Any advice here would be helpful. 

Cheers,

Alex

[perficad]

This has already been made - lfpo-1.zip on Flightsim.com ?

[chasensfo]

CalClassics has a lot of sceneries from the 1960s but they are for FS2004 and most are just decent freeware quality, the only way to get "exceptional" detail would be to take the time to learn to backdate a payware scenery like we were talking about in the ADE thread with MCO being backdated. Not impossible. You can always commission someone if you don't want to do it yourself, raphrodrigues knows how to re-construct payware but wouldn't care about the 60s unless it was a job as he's more into the 90s and modern day.

This is the highest detail LFPO scenery I know of that works with FSX, but it would need a lot of modification to look like the late 60s (though not so much that it can't be done!):

secure.simmarket.com/jetstream-designs-paris-orly-lfpo-fsx.phtml

They aren't going to tell you how to backdate it as we are like one of the 0.002% who would care about that, so don't ever expect instructions. You just have to look at photos and do it yourself by researching how to remove objects, mask them, etc. With some scenery it's very hard, with some its easy to figure out, but you gotta start somewhere.

As for vehicles and stuff, you'd have to search around for retro replacement GSE, not sure if late 60s replacements for default FSX GSE exist. But once you backdate the airport, you can change the SODE jetways to look how you want with GSX. But do the ADE first for parking, planes mostly parked at an angle back then to turn out obviously so it'll be very different than the current ADE file.

[pms707]

Feb 23, 2022 7:53:54 GMT -5 chasensfo said:

CalClassics has a lot of sceneries from the 1960s but they are for FS2004 and most are just decent freeware quality, the only way to get "exceptional" detail would be to take the time to learn to backdate a payware scenery like we were talking about in the ADE thread with MCO being backdated. Not impossible. You can always commission someone if you don't want to do it yourself, raphrodrigues knows how to re-construct payware but wouldn't care about the 60s unless it was a job as he's more into the 90s and modern day.

This is the highest detail LFPO scenery I know of that works with FSX, but it would need a lot of modification to look like the late 60s (though not so much that it can't be done!):

secure.simmarket.com/jetstream-designs-paris-orly-lfpo-fsx.phtml

They aren't going to tell you how to backdate it as we are like one of the 0.002% who would care about that, so don't ever expect instructions. You just have to look at photos and do it yourself by researching how to remove objects, mask them, etc. With some scenery it's very hard, with some its easy to figure out, but you gotta start somewhere.

As for vehicles and stuff, you'd have to search around for retro replacement GSE, not sure if late 60s replacements for default FSX GSE exist. But once you backdate the airport, you can change the SODE jetways to look how you want with GSX. But do the ADE first for parking, planes mostly parked at an angle back then to turn out obviously so it'll be very different than the current ADE file.

I’ve done exactly this to turn the KLAX V 3.0 for FSX by Glenn Pearson on AVSIM (which is based more or less on the FSX default KLAX) from a current version to one that comes very close to 1968 in a little over a week, with no prior ADE experience, pretty much just by trial and error clicking and deleting— and creating exclusion polygons. I’m not sure how much more sophisticated the payware versions are — or if the rules are the same. I’ve been unable to pin down a truly complete user manual for ADE anywhere.

I know there’s a format certain tarmacs and aprons use that prevents any FS9 models from being visible in some of those sceneries like the Mega Airports (I forget what that’s called) and that for me is the biggest barrier. I have the FS Dreamteam KLAX and that’s the case there — only FSX AI is visible because of the tarmac format. LFPO 1968 with no David Maltby 1-11s, Comets and Tridents, or CPAI Viscounts, F-27s and Vanguards is a non-starter.

If there’s a way to resolve this, I’m down. But I don’t want to pay for it, and then discover after endless editing that it’s totally limiting my AI options to FSX only. The Aerosoft LFPO has the most detailed iconic ORY main terminal building and tower, which are really the main elements I am lacking in any other freeware I have seen so far. 

[chasensfo]

Here is a good manual:

www.scruffyduck.org.uk/files/ade_151_supplementary_manual.pdf

And FAQs:

scruffyduck.screenstepslive.com/s/help_docs/m/20268

[pms707]

Mar 3, 2022 2:02:27 GMT -5 chasensfo said:

Here is a good manual:

www.scruffyduck.org.uk/files/ade_151_supplementary_manual.pdf

And FAQs:

scruffyduck.screenstepslive.com/s/help_docs/m/20268

Thanks again, Chasen!