Nils's kind of ok repaints

[sunking]

Thanks for the AF paints. They look lovely. How much efforts would it be to add the A320-100/200 pre "Groupe AF"? It's okay, if it's not possible, just was curious.

Anyway, lovely paintings of a bygone era.

Kind regards.

[Nilsfr91]

Jan 24, 2021 15:25:11 GMT -5 sunking said:

Thanks for the AF paints. They look lovely. How much efforts would it be to add the A320-100/200 pre "Groupe AF"? It's okay, if it's not possible, just was curious.

Anyway, lovely paintings of a bygone era.

Kind regards.

First of all, thank you for the kind words !

As for the pre-AF Group era A320's, It can totally be done I just need to finish the rest of the AF Group and AF-KLM A320/A321 fleet, and I'll start making them.
I'm in fact quite interested as if I remember correctly, the early Air France A320's wore what was one the first drafts of the "euro-white" livery with the blue and red seahorse on the fuselage, bigger stripes on the tail, and they had the honor to be all named after a city being part of AF's network.

Same as the other paints, I'll post a preview here on the forum when they will be ready 

Best regards,

Nils

[Nilsfr91]

Here we go today withe the A320-200 !
Like the A319's and A320-100's, there are 3 variations, 1 for the 90's (Groupe Air France titles), one for the early 2000's (Groupe AF + Skyteam titles) and one for the 2006/07 to the 2010's period (AF-KLM + Skyteam titles, "2010's" as the 2009 new scheme wasn't applied to a lot of A320 in the early 2010's).

The only different thing here is with the 90's paint, as the old owned from the start by AF A320-200's (and -100 series too) were baptized, and wore the name of a french city or a European city were AF flew. It was better portrayed on the original euro-white livery painted on those early A320's (those delivered from 1988 to 1991/94), and it appeared in French like this "Ville De XXXX", in English "City Of XXXX".
In this package the airframe is F-GFKT "Ville De Lyon" (Lyon being the 3rd biggest French city in population) and in the mid 90's revised livery, th named appeared as a small sticker below the 2/3 firsts cabin windows.


Here's the preview: 

[chasensfo]

Jan 24, 2021 15:25:11 GMT -5 sunking said:

Thanks for the AF paints. They look lovely. How much efforts would it be to add the A320-100/200 pre "Groupe AF"? It's okay, if it's not possible, just was curious.

Anyway, lovely paintings of a bygone era.

Kind regards.

What year did that logo get added? I thought it was added before the livery Nils is painting came out?

[Nilsfr91]

Jan 26, 2021 3:46:04 GMT -5 chasensfo said:

Jan 24, 2021 15:25:11 GMT -5 sunking said:

Thanks for the AF paints. They look lovely. How much efforts would it be to add the A320-100/200 pre "Groupe AF"? It's okay, if it's not possible, just was curious.

Anyway, lovely paintings of a bygone era.

Kind regards.

What year did that logo get added? I thought it was added before the livery Nils is painting came out?

I think that he's talking about the livery wore from delivery of AF first A320's (1987 to 1990) before the addition of the Groupe AF at the meger of AFR, ITF and UTA and before all of them got repainted in the 90's/2000's livery in 1995/96.

Here's some exemples I found on airliners.net:   
                                                                      

                                                                      

[chasensfo]

Ah OK, the pre-1990ish livery. ranmori has that livery well covered: ranmori.mixh.jp/wp/blog/2019/05/08/air-france-1992-winter-fleet/

Even in 1998, a small number of A320s and 737-200s still had that livery. I've heard it referred to as the "Bar Code" livery by a friend at Air France, as the tail design looks like a barcode on items at a store.

[Nilsfr91]

Jan 26, 2021 6:55:29 GMT -5 chasensfo said:

Ah OK, the pre-1990ish livery. ranmori has that livery well covered: ranmori.mixh.jp/wp/blog/2019/05/08/air-france-1992-winter-fleet/

Even in 1998, a small number of A320s and 737-200s still had that livery. I've heard it referred to as the "Bar Code" livery by a friend at Air France, as the tail design looks like a barcode on items at a store.

Ohhh yes ok, yes and even people in my family who worked for Air France at CDG and Orly told me that about the livery. I did take a look at Ranmori's paints, and they are the same liveries but Ranmori's are with the AF group titltes linus the city names, and I'm thinking about doing as an extra the very early barcode scheme as seen on the photos above with the original AF logo "La Crevette" and the city name in place of the "Groupe Air France" stickers.
I've even seen at least one photo of the very first -200 (F-GFKH) wearing the last 2 letters of the reg on the tail in place of the EU flag.

[Nilsfr91]

The paints of the day are th AF's A321-100. They are only 5 of them (all still part of the airline's fleet as of 2021, most of having even received the new 2019/2020 livery revamp) as they were originally delivered to Air Inter in 1994/95 when the merger was still in progress, and even sported the very short lived "Air Inter Europe" livery from 1996 to 1997.
Here in this package are 4 variations this time: - the usual 1997 to 2000 "Groupe Air France" livery
                                                                     
                                                                     - the 2000 to 2007/08/09 "Groupe Air France"+Skyteam logos livery (note that reg F-GMZE wore that livery until being repainted in the 2009 new livery in 2010)
                                                                     
                                                                     - an "hybrid" livery wore by all aircrafts (except F-GMZE) between 2007 and 2010 were the Groupe Air France titles cohabited with the new "crevette" logo on the engines. It was worn from 2007 to 2008/09 by reg F-GMZA and F-GMZB, and from 2009 to 2010 by reg F-GMZC and F-GMZD.
                                                                   
                                                                     - the "AF-KLM"+Skyteam logos + "crevette" logos on the engines worn only by F-GMZA from 2008 to 2019.

Here's the preview:

[sunking]

Thanks Nils, for taking the extra mile by letting the pre 1990 livery lift off.

Ranmori did an AF fleet, but as noted it's the 1992 version where most aircraft already had the "Groupe AF" sticker introduced to display the unity after including Air Inter and UTA in 1990,but where there were still here and there very few aircraft with either the Crevette logo or the livery of their initial owners.

It's not easy to distinguish at first sight and similar to SV which in the early 1980s changed the font to avoid the crucifix between the letters S and A.

Kind regards.

[Nilsfr91]

And to finish for tonight here are the -200 series of AF's A321's, the variations are the same as for the -100 series, note that (at least with what I could find) there's was only 1 A321-200 (F-GTAD) who got the hybrid "skyteam+AF group+crevette" treatment from 2007 to 2009.
Also note that most of the early A321-200 (delivered brand new 1997/1998) left quickly for some reason the fleet in either 2002 or 2004 (F-GTAA, F-GTAB, F-GTAC, F-GTAF and F-GTAG).

After that there's just the A318's left, and the extra A320's in the late 1980's/early 1990's livery.

So now here's the preview:

[Nilsfr91]

Anddd here we go with the A318's, all 3 variations carry the Skyteam logo as Air France received all their A318 between 2003 and 2007.
Specifications are given in the fltsim.txt file as for when each aircraft was repainted in the next livery variations (some never got the AFR-KLM titles nor the "crevette" logo until being repainted in the new livery of 2009/2010, or got repainted in the hybrid Groupe AF-crevette logos before).

Now here's the preview:



I'm now going to make the quick A320-100 and A320-200 in AF's 80's livery, but I have a question (or more so a request lol) for my next pack: does any of the painters here have the paintkit for the P3Dv4 (PBR) version of the TFS A300 ?
I only have th original paintkit who doesn't have the correct windows and doors placement for the P3Dv4 version.
Thank you very much in advance !!

Best regards,
Nils

[kekn]

Hi Nils,

thank you for your great work. Really appreciated.
While seeing your A319 paints, i remembered some AF birds that, for me, represent one of AF's most interesting services in it's younger history. In the late 2000s AF had a small subfleet of A319LR's flying to oil and gas destinations like Malabo, Kish Island or Pointe Noire under the brand "Dedicate".

Here a some examples of the fleet in the 3 different version (that i am aware of):

Pre-2009 livery with Groupe AF titles: www.jetphotos.com/photo/331259
Pre-2009 livery with AF-KLM titles: www.jetphotos.com/photo/6668390 / www.jetphotos.com/photo/6901642
Post-2009 livery with AF-KLM titles & new Dedicate logo: www.jetphotos.com/photo/7575370

AFAIK there a no paints on FAIB/FSPXAI models availible for this aircraft if you want to add them to the party :-)

Anyway keep up your great work. Mid '00s is the time when Aviation started to gain my fascination so i'm following your thread very attentive.

[Nilsfr91]

Jan 28, 2021 16:00:48 GMT -5 kekn said:

Hi Nils,

thank you for your great work. Really appreciated.
While seeing your A319 paints, i remembered some AF birds that, for me, represent one of AF's most interesting services in it's younger history. In the late 2000s AF had a small subfleet of A319LR's flying to oil and gas destinations like Malabo, Kish Island or Pointe Noire under the brand "Dedicate".

Here a some examples of the fleet in the 3 different version (that i am aware of):

Pre-2009 livery with Groupe AF titles: www.jetphotos.com/photo/331259
Pre-2009 livery with AF-KLM titles: www.jetphotos.com/photo/6668390 / www.jetphotos.com/photo/6901642
Post-2009 livery with AF-KLM titles & new Dedicate logo: www.jetphotos.com/photo/7575370

AFAIK there a no paints on FAIB/FSPXAI models availible for this aircraft if you want to add them to the party :-)

Anyway keep up your great work. Mid '00s is the time when Aviation started to gain my fascination so i'm following your thread very attentive.

Yes I remember those titles, even if I never really knew where AF were sending them lol. Thanks for the links for the photos, I'm in the middle of the of the old 80's colors of AF A320's but I'll take a look at them and add a AFR-KLM titles and a Groupe Air France titles version with those stickers when I will be over with the 80's paints.

And thank you for the kind words!

Nils

[Nilsfr91]

Here we go today with the little late 80's/early 90's Air France A320's !
Air France was the launch customer of the A320 (alongside British Caledonian who merged with BA in the process so their A320's got repainted in BA's landor colors) , receiving MSN#005 reg F-GFKA in spring 1988.
The livery for the first A320-100's (1988 to around 1989/1990) was the first draft of the "barcode" livery introduced in the late 1970's: white fuselage, grey engines and the well known tricolor stripes on the tail.
The first -200's series got the updated white engines version, but both the -100 and -200 initially, like the rest of the fleet, didn't have the EU flag on the upper part of the vertical stabilizer and got the last 2 letters of their reg at that place, livery that the -100's also got in 1990/1991.

All of them got named after a French or a European city and the titles were proudly displayed below the just above the now blue and red "crevette" logo.

So all of this is represented in that little pack:
                                                                        -> 1 set of one -100 and one -200 series with the reg on the tail (and grey engines for the -100), the -100 is F-GFKA "Ville de Paris" and the -200 F-GFKH "Ville de Bruxelles"
                                                                        -> 1 set of one -100 and one -200 series with the EU flag on the tail, the -100 is F-GFKD "Ville de Londres" and the -200 F-GFKI "Ville de Lisbonne"

Here's the preview:

    

Like the rest of my paints, they are available on my Google Drive via the link the little box below each of my posts. They are in a subfolder named "late 80's early 90's paints" inside the Air France folder.

[wernerw]

Thank you for these, also for die FS9 textures.

Werner