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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 22, 2006 19:52:13 GMT -5
Hi,
The AI Air Inter Caravelle is 3/4 of the way done, but I've run into a problem. Depending on which photos I look at, the reds and blues can be all sorts of shades. In fact, a couple of the photos make it look like the red wedge up near the is a different shade of red than the stripe that runs the length of the fuselage.
So, is anyone out there REAL familiar with Air Inter so that you could, perhaps, look over the photos on Airliners.net (or from somewhere) and let me know which most accurately portrays the colors?
Thanks,
Kurt
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Post by jetstar on Jun 23, 2006 1:48:47 GMT -5
Hi Kurt.
Always a problem getting the colours from a photo.
I have flown on Air Inter Caravelle's but its so long ago I can't remember what they looked like ;D
I'll have a look for you tonight and see if I can find something that looks familiar.
Paul
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Post by jetstar on Jun 23, 2006 2:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 11:50:24 GMT -5
Hmm. Never noticed that the Caravelle had sort of triangular windows. (I wouldn't worry about that for AI). Also, was it the first aircraft with a read air stair?
Andy
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Post by Christian Page, RAI on Jun 23, 2006 12:33:50 GMT -5
Hmm. Never noticed that the Caravelle had sort of triangular windows. (I wouldn't worry about that for AI). Also, was it the first aircraft with a read air stair? Andy Early models of the Caravelle had the triangular windows, later ones had the oval/retangular style common to other jetliners. The Caravelle was the first, AFAIK, jetliner to have a rear airstair, but not the first airliner. The Martin 202/404 had a rear airstair. |
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 23, 2006 15:25:58 GMT -5
Hi,
Thanks for the advice on the colors, and I'll run with that.
Don't worry, the windows are triangular on the AI model. If they hadn't been, I'd have repainted them that way.
Take care,
Kurt
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 16:02:47 GMT -5
Hi, Thanks for the advice on the colors, and I'll run with that. Don't worry, the windows are triangular on the AI model. If they hadn't been, I'd have repainted them that way. Take care, Kurt Thanks, Kurt. I'm not that fussy when it comes to AI, though.  Andy |
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Post by jetstar on Jun 23, 2006 17:57:02 GMT -5
Hi Kris. The last Caravelle's I flew on were Air Inter 12B's and like all Caravelle's they had triangular windows. www.airliners.net/open.file/1064575/L/They also had those "hair nets" on the overhead ............... well they were not lockers, really just a shelf.... At least Air Inter gave you a "proper" full sized can of Coke!! ;D Paul |
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Post by tgibson on Jun 23, 2006 20:40:26 GMT -5
Hi,
Another airliner with rear airstairs was one version of the Convair 240, used by Western Airlines, among others.
But the Martin 202 was probably the first.
Hope this helps,
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Post by Christian Page, RAI on Jun 23, 2006 21:21:56 GMT -5
Hi, Another airliner with rear airstairs was one version of the Convair 240, used by Western Airlines, among others. But the Martin 202 was probably the first. Hope this helps, When I posted that, the voices in my head were arguing over whether or not there was a Convair equipped with a rear airstair. One voice said there was, but the other kept saying I was just transposing the Martin to the CV. There's so few photos of the rear-stair CV-240, my mind almost immediately pictures the forward-stair models when I think of the entire Convair series, but I had a nagging suspicion that there was a model with a ventral stairway - thanks for confirming that! And, you are correct, the Martin was first - at least to fly. The prototype 202 flew in November, 1946 while the first CV-240 flew in March, 1947. |
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Post by Christian Page, RAI on Jun 23, 2006 21:34:28 GMT -5
Hi Kris. The last Caravelle's I flew on were Air Inter 12B's and like all Caravelle's they had triangular windows. www.airliners.net/open.file/1064575/L/They also had those "hair nets" on the overhead ............... well they were not lockers, really just a shelf.... At least Air Inter gave you a "proper" full sized can of Coke!! ;D Paul A full-sized can of Coke, WTH is that? I could have sworn that later models had more "normal" windows - at least the ones exported - but I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time... I'll defer to you, I've never seen a Caravelle in person that I know of, let alone flown on one. There probably were many around when I lived in Europe iin the 1970's, but I don't recall ever seeing one. The first time I ever saw one in pictures was in a book my dad brought me from England called "Commercial Airliners" - I still have it, in fact, I was just looking something up in it a few minutes ago. It was published in 1978 and it's pretty well-worn, has the ductape binding now, as I've been using it as a reference for years. It has some great rare photos, stats on the planes (including Eastern Bloc, which was hard to get back then), and skeletal drawings - there's even a skeletal of the Mercure in it, how rare is that? |
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Post by jetstar on Jun 24, 2006 3:57:51 GMT -5
Hi Kris. Yep, a real can of Coke and not a mini!! Flew the 12B's from Paris to Lyon and Toulouse (or however its spelled). I have a safety card from one of them as well. Like 1-11's and Britannia's, Comets etc I used to see them every day. Now its all mod cons with the high spot being a DC-8 freighter once or twice a year (Murry Air last year). How the Eastern block has changed. Only the TU-154M now (and the odd AN-12), but even they are starting to become rare. LZ-BTZ in LGW this morning though! Bring back the good old days (well we do in FS!)  Paul |
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 25, 2006 14:00:52 GMT -5
OK, the Air Inter colors are posted at AVSIM. Now I'll get some Air France textures ready to go.
Take care,
Kurt
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Post by 727pilot on Jun 26, 2006 10:58:43 GMT -5
Hi Kurt,
thank you very much for the Air Inter Caravelle! She's absolutely fabulous!
Last week I didn't have any SE 210s flying around - now thanks to Kurt and CalClassic my European
AI-Skies are full of them. Just great!!!
Kind regards!
Michael
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 26, 2006 16:47:08 GMT -5
It's really nice to see someone likes the planes and is using them already. I do repaints with Microsoft Paint, just a basic program. But I try to make the colors and markings line up as closely with photos as I can.
By the way, I just uploaded my Air France 707 and 727, and the A300 and 737 will be up in a day or two.
Thank you for your compliments,
Kurt
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