Post by biggiraffe on Jun 22, 2006 19:52:13 GMT -5
The AI Air Inter Caravelle is 3/4 of the way done, but I've run into a problem. Depending on which photos I look at, the reds and blues can be all sorts of shades. In fact, a couple of the photos make it look like the red wedge up near the is a different shade of red than the stripe that runs the length of the fuselage.
So, is anyone out there REAL familiar with Air Inter so that you could, perhaps, look over the photos on Airliners.net (or from somewhere) and let me know which most accurately portrays the colors?
Post by Christian Page, RAI on Jun 23, 2006 12:33:50 GMT -5
Hmm. Never noticed that the Caravelle had sort of triangular windows. (I wouldn't worry about that for AI). Also, was it the first aircraft with a read air stair?
Early models of the Caravelle had the triangular windows, later ones had the oval/retangular style common to other jetliners. The Caravelle was the first, AFAIK, jetliner to have a rear airstair, but not the first airliner. The Martin 202/404 had a rear airstair.
Post by Christian Page, RAI on Jun 23, 2006 21:21:56 GMT -5
Another airliner with rear airstairs was one version of the Convair 240, used by Western Airlines, among others.
But the Martin 202 was probably the first.
Hope this helps,
When I posted that, the voices in my head were arguing over whether or not there was a Convair equipped with a rear airstair. One voice said there was, but the other kept saying I was just transposing the Martin to the CV. There's so few photos of the rear-stair CV-240, my mind almost immediately pictures the forward-stair models when I think of the entire Convair series, but I had a nagging suspicion that there was a model with a ventral stairway - thanks for confirming that! And, you are correct, the Martin was first - at least to fly. The prototype 202 flew in November, 1946 while the first CV-240 flew in March, 1947.
They also had those "hair nets" on the overhead ............... well they were not lockers, really just a shelf....
At least Air Inter gave you a "proper" full sized can of Coke!! ;D
A full-sized can of Coke, WTH is that? I could have sworn that later models had more "normal" windows - at least the ones exported - but I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time... I'll defer to you, I've never seen a Caravelle in person that I know of, let alone flown on one. There probably were many around when I lived in Europe iin the 1970's, but I don't recall ever seeing one. The first time I ever saw one in pictures was in a book my dad brought me from England called "Commercial Airliners" - I still have it, in fact, I was just looking something up in it a few minutes ago. It was published in 1978 and it's pretty well-worn, has the ductape binding now, as I've been using it as a reference for years. It has some great rare photos, stats on the planes (including Eastern Bloc, which was hard to get back then), and skeletal drawings - there's even a skeletal of the Mercure in it, how rare is that?
Post by biggiraffe on Jun 26, 2006 16:47:08 GMT -5
It's really nice to see someone likes the planes and is using them already. I do repaints with Microsoft Paint, just a basic program. But I try to make the colors and markings line up as closely with photos as I can.
By the way, I just uploaded my Air France 707 and 727, and the A300 and 737 will be up in a day or two.
chasensfo: Yes the regionals will be included, and yes the whole 1999 fleet is done (they joined Star Alliance in 1999 and that fleet has the logo lol)
Jun 11, 2021 12:27:57 GMT -5
theflyingmobian: Damn you're on top of this lol
Jun 11, 2021 19:08:35 GMT -5
chasensfo: People usually reach out to me when they paint late 90s fleets and ask about flightplans
Jun 12, 2021 8:01:49 GMT -5
FSX Retro Flyer: Here are my huge and humble thanks to Michael Pearson for creating these magnificent paints for the post-CAAC Chinese airlines!
Jun 16, 2021 11:24:16 GMT -5
chasensfo: Hell yeah, and soon the 1990s airports of China will all be open for business
Jun 19, 2021 2:25:09 GMT -5
FSX Retro Flyer: The special livery of the 747-100 of Japan Asia has been painted by Michael Pearson some time ago. The repaint can be found on AVSIM here: faib_747-100_jaa.zip
Jun 24, 2021 8:30:21 GMT -5
chasensfo: Yet it took until now for someone to point it out LOL. Thanks for that, link updated along with several others
Jun 28, 2021 18:45:46 GMT -5
FSX Retro Flyer: Satisfying to see Iberia package being released with all their repaints available! Also, can't wait for SAS and Aerolíneas Argentinas in a near future!
Jun 30, 2021 6:59:11 GMT -5
chasensfo: SAS yes but Aerolineas not sure, maybe some other Argentine carriers. Mostly European and US carriers for now unless others make surprises
Jun 30, 2021 10:16:05 GMT -5
chasensfo: China too of course
Jun 30, 2021 10:16:09 GMT -5
theflyingmobian: Looking forward to filling up Australia and New Zealand with those Chinese, US and European carriers too.
Jul 1, 2021 1:18:19 GMT -5
tony: Thanks for the lovely Aussie repaints. If you plan to do more heres a link to a great aussie airliner register that may be of help. www.aussieairliners.org/index.html
Jul 2, 2021 10:38:21 GMT -5
theflyingmobian: I think at this point the Qantas VH-OJC Formula 1 747 is the only remaining 747 yet to be painted in AI, but I don't think it has plans yet as that was active in 2000 to 2002.
Jul 3, 2021 20:11:05 GMT -5
jetstar: G-AWNA was painted up in incorrect BOAC colours when it was WFU, It was broken up in those colours in 1999. If you look closely, you can see the overpainted white where the BA titles were, and the tail is showing the speed stripe underneath the.. see part2
Jul 13, 2021 7:41:02 GMT -5
jetstar: Thin paint on the tail. They never did anything with the lower blue though. It was just homage to BOAC's original 747-136 when it was retired. Its a pity is was not preserved. Then again, BA would not pay to upkeep the 707 at Cosford, which was scrapped.
Jul 13, 2021 7:43:46 GMT -5
jetstar: Should have said Landor, Doh!
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