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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 11:48:39 GMT -5
OK, I'm confused. Whose BEA is cut down? Is Kurt's not the complete schedule? There's no note to that effect in his readme that I saw. I don't do much flying in Europe but I seem to have lots of BEA zipping around there. BEA did not cover a very big area.
Andy
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 12:43:25 GMT -5
Paul,
Varig Cargo for 1977 is done now but we need an AI 707 Freighter. I can't even find a flyable one to use. Only option would be a flyable pax 707.
Andy
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 23, 2006 15:24:23 GMT -5
Hi,
Actually, I didn't think I'd cut BEA, and sure didn't BMA.
I know Air France, SAS, BOAC, Lufthansa, Air Canada, CP Air, etc are cut and that's why I've been hesistant to post them. The international flights on the European carriers only show in Europe and places where the plane can get home within its 24 hours (HEY, do you think they'll fix that on FS 10??). And for the larger carriers in North America, I have the same problem where they'll show up fine on that continent but the rest of the world won't.
I'm still planning on posting mid-70's Air France and SAS since they've been requested, and the readme file will mention that they're "optimized for Europe".
Take care, Kurt
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 16:05:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, Kurt. I didn't think your BEA was cut down. ;D
Andy
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Post by jetstar on Jun 23, 2006 17:48:04 GMT -5
Hi Andy. Post the Varig plans. I'm sure that a 707 repaint will turn up OK, I'm confused. Whose BEA is cut down? Is Kurt's not the complete schedule? There's no note to that effect in his readme that I saw. I don't do much flying in Europe but I seem to have lots of BEA zipping around there. BEA did not cover a very big area.Incorrect!! Just from EGKK and EGLL BEA served 88 international destinations. The timetable is 169 A5 pages once you take out the fares etc. It was back in the days before they had the TriStar so routes like Paris and Amsterdam were served almost every hour from 7:00 to 22:00 daily. There are over 3,000 flights in the schedule. Northwest and Cambrian will follow shortly. Paul
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 23, 2006 19:46:35 GMT -5
This leaves me a bit baffled since my BEA timetable is nowhere near that thick. At any rate, I haven't yet submitted any of the flightplans where I knowingly omitted portions of the international routes. I do have every major from North America in the 70's but knew I'd left out many international flights.
It will be interesting to see the full schedule.
Take care, Kurt
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 20:25:12 GMT -5
Hi Andy. Incorrect!! Just from EGKK and EGLL BEA served 88 international destinations. Paul I said they didn't cover a big area, not that they didn't have a lot of flights. The geographic area was mostly just Europe. Andy
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 20:27:28 GMT -5
This leaves me a bit baffled since my BEA timetable is nowhere near that thick. At any rate, I haven't yet submitted any of the flightplans where I knowingly omitted portions of the international routes. I do have every major from North America in the 70's but knew I'd left out many international flights. It will be interesting to see the full schedule. Take care, Kurt You have the files for United in the 1970s and other major North Americans? Please share! Andy
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Post by tgibson on Jun 23, 2006 20:48:44 GMT -5
Hi,
I have an AI Vanguard in my AI package. It's not very good, but better than nothing.
Hope this helps,
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 23, 2006 21:04:36 GMT -5
I've been reluctant to put up the large airlines because 1) I know I'm missing most of the overseas flights, and 2) I have a whole bunch of "ferry flights" going on in the dark hours of the night because of the AI requirement that the plane return to its origin within 24 hours. This works fine for me since I prefer flying in the daytime but I'm not so sure too many would be happy with these limitations.
Besides that, I've read in various postings that there are poeple working on all of the majors and I'm kind of looking forward to their releases, myself.
Right now I'm working on the Air Inter Caravelle (ever try to duplicate "Caravelle" in cursive writing??), then will submit 1977 Air France and SAS flightplans and aircraft since they've been requested. Then I want to finish up my Great Lakes flightplans, which are about ready, and paint their CV 580.
After that, I'll take a look at what I have and what is coming, and maybe submit some of these partial flightplans to tide things over. It takes time to get them ready for submitting.
Take care, Kurt
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Post by Andy on Jun 23, 2006 22:49:15 GMT -5
US airlines other than TWA, Pan Am, and Northwest did not have trans-oceanic flights for the most part in in the mid-70s. There would not be many flights missing. I'll PM you my e-mail address if you will send me your major US airlines. I just need the raw files. Thanks, Andy
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Post by jetstar on Jun 24, 2006 1:56:36 GMT -5
Hi Kurt.
Its possible that you have one of the many cut down timetables that were produced.
I have a load of them and they are not worth using.
Took me ages to code BEA as there were so many flights. ;D
I should upload it soon.
Paul
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Post by biggiraffe on Jun 24, 2006 12:10:07 GMT -5
Andy - I see there is a message feature here on the site, so that'd work fine. Tell me which airlines you want?
Another thing about North American flightplans -- I have a JP Fleets books from 1976 or so. Since few of the timetables showed aircraft, I broke everything into flights, then looked in the JP book at the fleet sizes, and divided the flightplans proportionally. Don't worry, you won't see 737's going to Honolulu.
I don't recall it taking all that long to code BEA, so I must have a reduced timetable. Oh well, I'll load yours when it's ready. I do remember liking the fact that the schedule tells the aircraft types. Well, to a point - it doesn't differentiate between Trident 2's and 3's, for example.
Take care, Kurt
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Post by Andy on Jun 24, 2006 14:40:34 GMT -5
Is there anything in particular that anyone would like to see from 1956? I might want to work on something a little different for a change (while I'm waiting for my BOAC timetable to arrive in the mail). Requests?
Andy
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Post by jetstar on Jun 24, 2006 14:42:00 GMT -5
Hi Kurt.
Thats right. Tridents are Tridents are Tridents!! I do remember some of the routes they flew but the rest will be as it comes.
I have the CO 1968 schedules are they fail to tell the type. Just like my Southern 1977 and lots of others.
Paul
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