One Last Addition

[Christian Page, RAI]

I discovered I had a working AFCAD for Austin-Mueller that Sheppard had worked up. This reopens the old Austin airport - you have to change the identifier from KAUS to KATT and add the info for KATT to the "airports.txt" file and recompile to get it active for AI. It's not of any particular timeframe, so I put it in the 1990's section, since the airport closed in 1998.

[Andy]

Thanks for that! I forgot about Mueller. Any other airfields that need reactivation? LGAT is one that is included in fs9 but I find that most people put LGAV into their retro plans.

One that we do need is KFTW for the 1960's and earlier. It is there in fs9 but is not suitable for the larger piston aircraft that used it. They overrun. It don't care so much if the scenery is accurate. I just want it usable.

Another one is ENFB. There is some Norwegian scenery out there that includes it but a simple AFCAD might be better.

Surprisingly, I have found that Meigs Field works in fs9 even though it has been closed for years. Perhaps it's a tribute to the early versions of FS that had Meigs as the default field.

Any others?

[Christian Page, RAI]

aspall said:

Thanks for that! I forgot about Mueller. Any other airfields that need reactivation? LGAT is one that is included in fs9 but I find that most people put LGAV into their retro plans.

One that we do need is KFTW for the 1960's and earlier. It is there in fs9 but is not suitable for the larger piston aircraft that used it. They overrun. It don't care so much if the scenery is accurate. I just want it usable.

Another one is ENFB. There is some Norwegian scenery out there that includes it but a simple AFCAD might be better.

Surprisingly, I have found that Meigs Field works in fs9 even though it has been closed for years. Perhaps it's a tribute to the early versions of FS that had Meigs as the default field.

Any others?

KFTW was not used by the airlines after 1953. Meacham was replaced by Amon Carter Field just south of the current DFW. Carter closed with DFW's opening and the site has been bulldozed. I have been working on Carter, but I'm going to turn my files over to Mike so he can tweak it and finish it up. Meacham was actually smaller than it is now in the 1950s. The runways were realigned, a new one built, and a new terminal constructed around 1968, when it was obvious Carter was doomed. Meacham has been used for various failed commuters over the years, but there's been no sustained service there in decades.

[swag]

Some other airports that were only built quite recently and should not be used for 70ies or 80ies Retro AI. In brackets the old airports which they replaced.

EDDM Munich (EDMR old Riem scenery available)
OJAI Amman (OJAM)
RJAA Tokyo (RJTT)
RJBB Osaka (RJOO)
RJGG Nagoya (RJNN)
RKSI Seoul (RKSS)
VHHH Hong Kong (VHHX Kai Tak available)
WSSS Singapore (WSAP)
WMKK Kuala Lumpur (WMSA)
VTBS Bangkok (VTBD)
SBGR Sao Paulo (SBSP)
ENGM Oslo (ENFB, part of Norway Airports scenery but sadly no AFCAD available!)
LGAV Athens (LGAT, as Andy mentioned already)

That's all I can think of right now.

Torsten

[Ralf Maylin]

Many thanks for all this information at one place now. I'll keep my eyes open for my next releases.

[richardegtd]

I too wanted to make ENFB active again, but with my limited scenery design abilities, was unable to make anything work at Fornebu with the Norway Sceneries package scenery.

But - I did find a scenery for ENFB for FS2002 on http:flightsim.no which seems to work OK - its not that detailed, but it does the job. I had to make a small "flatten" switch in the scenery config. and also make up an AFCAD for it, but if I managed it, it can't be that hard !!

If anyone wants the details, feel free to PM me with your e-mail and I'll try to forward.

Richard.

[brentblackburn]

admin said:

I discovered I had a working AFCAD for Austin-Mueller that Sheppard had worked up. This reopens the old Austin airport - you have to change the identifier from KAUS to KATT and add the info for KATT to the "airports.txt" file and recompile to get it active for AI. It's not of any particular timeframe, so I put it in the 1990's section, since the airport closed in 1998.

Sheppard was supposed to be working on a scenery for KATT--I wonder whatever became of that.

[Andy]

admin said:

aspall said:

Thanks for that! I forgot about Mueller. Any other airfields that need reactivation? LGAT is one that is included in fs9 but I find that most people put LGAV into their retro plans.

One that we do need is KFTW for the 1960's and earlier. It is there in fs9 but is not suitable for the larger piston aircraft that used it. They overrun. It don't care so much if the scenery is accurate. I just want it usable.

Another one is ENFB. There is some Norwegian scenery out there that includes it but a simple AFCAD might be better.

Surprisingly, I have found that Meigs Field works in fs9 even though it has been closed for years. Perhaps it's a tribute to the early versions of FS that had Meigs as the default field.

Any others?

KFTW was not used by the airlines after 1953. Meacham was replaced by Amon Carter Field just south of the current DFW. Carter closed with DFW's opening and the site has been bulldozed. I have been working on Carter, but I'm going to turn my files over to Mike so he can tweak it and finish it up. Meacham was actually smaller than it is now in the 1950s. The runways were realigned, a new one built, and a new terminal constructed around 1968, when it was obvious Carter was doomed. Meacham has been used for various failed commuters over the years, but there's been no sustained service there in decades.

Thanks, Kris. I was confusing Carter with Meacham. What was the code for Amon-Carter then?

Andy

[Christian Page, RAI]

ACF was the original identifier, then it changed to GSW when it was renamed Greater Southwest International around 1962-63. And finally, it carried DFW after the last effort by Fort Worth in the late 1960's to offer it up as a joint airport for both Fort Worth and Dallas. The KGSW code is still used by American Airlines in SABRE - it's the identifier for transmissions from company headquarters, which sits on the old airport site. It's a nod to the mostly-forgotten airport, as is the street their headquarters is on, Amon Carter Boulevard. When you drive down Amon Carter to AA's headquarters, you're literally driving on top of what was once runway 17/35, a small portion of which remains and is visible on the north side of Texas 183. The original tunnel built for 183 when 17/35 was expanded in 1962-63 was demolished sometime in the late 1980's, I remember it being there as late as 1987, when we stayed near there during OU-Texas weekend. We flew down there in a friend's Bonanza and landed at Meacham, actually.

[edolosa]

Anyone making here a group of AI traffic for the excellent Hong Kong Kai Tak airport made by Jim Vile?

I love flying to that airport making those hair raising approaches from the northwestern side of the airport.

I already have some traffic but it's just the generic ones coming from the typical default AI traffic of MSFS9 but I would like to see some nice genuine looking traffic that's more fitting to the airport. Even if it may be newer planes. I already use a lot of AI from PAI and WAI for my AI traffic and some places are already crowded there. I even have flights going in the new VHHH airport that's within earshot of the old VHHX.

Since VHHX has been mentioned in this thread in passing. I just thought I'd add my voice if anyone has made one. I've searched already in this forum but nothing has shown.

[chrisP]

Depending on the time period, there's at a minimum Cathay Pacific, Pan American and BOAC. China Airlines (Taiwan) should be in the next update.

[DanKH]

swag said:

ENGM Oslo (ENFB, part of Norway Airports scenery but sadly no AFCAD available!)

enfb_1960_oslo_fornebu.zip at AVSIM for FS9.

Also for FS9 (at least it says so in the documentation "Fornebo") available from flightsim.no:
www.flightsim.no/cgi-bin/file/search.cgi?query=NORAP2004_

[Sheppard Avery]

brentblackburn said:

Sheppard was supposed to be working on a scenery for KATT--I wonder whatever became of that.

Aloha Folks, I was working on that awhile back. I remember asking someone to do an exclude on the area because I did not know how to. I don't remember who it was and at any rate this was not done and sent to me. So, all I had was the Afcad.

Kris, if you want to post somewhere your more than welcome!!

Hope all is well. My best to you all!!!!

Shep