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Post by 727pilot on Feb 22, 2007 7:54:52 GMT -5
Hi retro-fans! Here are some more screenshots of my AI-world from the late 70s/early 80s. Unfortunately my system is not high-end - so please excuse the poor image quality. Thanks to all the model-designers and repainters! Have fun!!! Michael Classic LOT-Tupolevs at Warsaw   CSA Tu-134s in Prague + CSA Il-18 in the background  Ready for pushback!  Ramp-traffic at Vienna  Egypt Air Tu-154 waiting for the return-trip to Cairo  Austrian DC-9s at the gate  Air Mauritius 707 arriving  Swissair-base at Zurich  Two Swissair DC-8s meet at LSZH  Long live the DC-10!  Philippine Airlines DC-10 and 747 at Manila  Malaysian Airlines 747 and DC-10 at Kuala Lumpur  Condor 727-100 at Düsseldorf  Lufthansa 737 at the gate  Frankfurt from the air  Line-up of Lufthansa 737s and 727s at Frankfurt  Ah yes - the good old days!  Thanks for looking at the pics!!!  |
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Post by chrisP on Feb 22, 2007 8:23:09 GMT -5
Nice!
Where did you get the Condor flightplans?
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Post by 727pilot on Feb 22, 2007 11:03:32 GMT -5
Thanks, Chris! I just downloaded a fairly new "Thomas Cook" flightplan and sorted a few things out here and there... ;D I'm not that fussy about correct flightplans - I just want to see the old jets appear at my airports (which are unfortunately not retro at all...  ). Michael |
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Post by Ralf Maylin on Feb 22, 2007 12:49:18 GMT -5
Thanks, Chris! I just downloaded a fairly new "Thomas Cook" flightplan and sorted a few things out here and there... ;D ... Michael I think the most important thing is to delete all legs to and from the airports of the German Democratic Republic. If there is a demand I could do the German charter companies that way, not accurate but useful until betters are available. Cool pix, thanks for sharing! Ralf |
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Post by 727pilot on Feb 23, 2007 5:32:17 GMT -5
You're right, Ralf!
I had to do the same with my Lufthansa-flightplan. Who wants to see LH-aircraft at Berlin-Tegel or Dresden in the days before 1990? In real life Lufthansa wouldn't have made it over there anyway - I guess any non-allied aircraft would have been shot down immediately by some MIGs just after crossing the iron curtain...
Anybody got flightplans for Pan Am, British Airways and Air France including the Berlin-flights through the corridors of the former German Democratic Republic?
Kind regards
Michael
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Post by chrisP on Feb 23, 2007 6:09:39 GMT -5
Pan Am: I think any schedule on RAI prior to 1989 should include the inter-german service (Pan Am '84 does EDDT)
Air France: AF 75
BA - not that I know of (except maybe the new BA 86); BEA did have the UK landing rights in Berlin prior to '74
To my surprise, the only Berlin airport serviced by our Air France and BEA is Schoenfeld!!!! We gotta fix that one!!
Exit runway when able.
Christian
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Post by Ralf Maylin on Feb 23, 2007 12:07:23 GMT -5
BA86 has many "Allied Berlin flights", the LH84 timetable I'm working on lists the AF flights too, no big deal to compile them too, that should make the flights to/from Berlin complete.  PS: Lufthansa had traffic rights to Leipzig, announced with their 84 timetable.  Ralf |
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Post by 727pilot on Feb 24, 2007 12:14:13 GMT -5
Hi Ralf, as far as I know those traffic rights were only temporary for the Leipzig Trade Fair (Leipziger Frühjahrsmesse). This was the biggest trade fair in the former German Democratic Republic - and a lot of West-German companies used to show their products there. Technology "Made in West-Germany" was very popular in the industry of the GDR - but of course the communist government in East-Berlin never officially admitted this...  It would be very interesting to know how often Lufthansa flew to Leipzig during exhibition-time. Do you have any further information? Kind regards!!! Michael |
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Post by Ralf Maylin on Feb 24, 2007 13:23:44 GMT -5
You are right, the flights FRA-Leipzig are limited to a timeframe between March the 9th and March the 17th. They were scheduled on a daily base, leaving FRA early morning and early evening, plus the return flights, but I can't tell how much they did in reality.
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Post by 727pilot on Feb 25, 2007 12:17:08 GMT -5
Very interesting!!! What type of aircraft was used?
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Post by Ralf Maylin on Feb 25, 2007 13:14:14 GMT -5
B732 Baby Boeing. |
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Post by klm617 on Feb 25, 2007 16:14:25 GMT -5
There are Condor flightplan with the Boeing 727-100 that can be downloaded at Avsim
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Post by chrisP on Feb 25, 2007 20:23:44 GMT -5
all the ones I can see are post-2000 (757, 767, etc...)... Could you please post a link? Thx in advance Christian |
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Post by klm617 on Feb 25, 2007 21:13:57 GMT -5
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Post by chrisP on Feb 25, 2007 22:04:50 GMT -5
many, many thanks! I remember being on a tour of the Lufhtansa maintenance facility in EDDF back in '76 and those planes looked HUGE from my tiny ground level... thanks for the memories |
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