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Post by madferret on Feb 11, 2008 22:29:11 GMT -5
I had St. Louis set up with your Ozark1985 and it looked great. Then I ran PAI's remove default commercial traffic and Ozark disappeared along with the rest of them. I've reloaded the traffic file with Traffic Tools, I've reloaded the planes, the parking matches and Ozark still ain't there. Has something like this happened with anyone else with any of these files? Thanks.
Madferret
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Post by Christian Page, RAI on Feb 11, 2008 23:46:25 GMT -5
Not that I am aware of. Without knowing more details, there are a couple of things that come to mind to check out that might solve this, however. First, where is the new .bgl file for Ozark '85 being stored? If you are not using a switchable traffic layer, it should be in .../Scenery/world/scenery - by default, this is where TT sends its compiled files, but if TT was modified, it could be sending them elsewhere. If you are using a switchable layer, make sure it is in the "scenery" folder for that layer and that the layer is included and active in FS. The PAI removal tool only wipes out the default commercial traffic from the standard FS traffic.bgl file - it should not impact any add-ons. A good idea, if you are not doing it already, compile the flight plans individually instead of doing a cut-and-paste to the decompiled default traffic.bgl file. I did that very early on in FS2002 and did have a similar problem to what you describe. But normally-speaking, what you describe should not happen.
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Post by chrisP on Feb 12, 2008 9:16:17 GMT -5
You can also check the "air traffic density %" in FS and make sure the number is equal to or higher than the % indicated in the flightplans.txt for ozark
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Post by madferret on Feb 12, 2008 12:50:07 GMT -5
What is a switchable traffic layer? The compiled file is in the scenery/world/scenery folder. I just let TT compile the 3 files and put in the standard place. I have not messed with TT in any way. I did have to make the airports file with AI Traffic Editor. I've also changed the traffic percentage to higher than the flight plan file. If I make it higher, yet, will more planes show up?
thank you,
Madferret
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Post by Christian Page, RAI on Feb 12, 2008 16:50:10 GMT -5
What is a switchable traffic layer? The compiled file is in the scenery/world/scenery folder. I just let TT compile the 3 files and put in the standard place. I have not messed with TT in any way. I did have to make the airports file with AI Traffic Editor. I've also changed the traffic percentage to higher than the flight plan file. If I make it higher, yet, will more planes show up? thank you, Madferret A "switchable layer" is an advanced method of using the files. In essence, you place all the traffic files in the "add-on scenery" directory and use them like you would any other add-on where it can be turned on and off in the scenery library. A lot of people use this method so they can switch between eras - like a vintage one and a modern one. I have four such layers on my personal setup reflecting my tastes - 1950's, late-'60's/early-'70s, mid-'70s, and present day. The traffic percentage does effect how many planes are showing. It's controlled by a piece of code in the flight plan file. If it is set up as "50%", then the flights so categorized will only show up when traffic percentage is at 50% or above. While I can't speak for all the files, most of the RAI flight plans are set up to show at low traffic percentages, below the MS default, so they will show almost always. The feature is there primarily for those with slower systems - less traffic means better frame rates.
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Post by madferret on Feb 13, 2008 17:08:40 GMT -5
OK, I feel kind of silly because I went to KSTL at a different time of day and one Ozark MD-80 landed. There just used to be a lot more of them. Thank you for your help. So you just put the compiled .BGL traffic files in the add-on scenery folder instead of the scenery/world.scenery folder? Can you drag them from their original folder or do they have to be put there by TT? My FS world is a confusion of times. I've got Tom Gibson's early jets and propliners, modern UPS and FedEx and TWA and Ozark from 1985 at the same airports. thanks again,
Madferret
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Post by johnfromoz on Mar 11, 2008 17:25:04 GMT -5
Madferret - "Can you drag them from their original folder or do they have to be put there by TT?" Either. I just started using switchable traffic files myself, amazing that some of the great ideas are so straightforward! "So you just put the compiled .BGL traffic files in the add-on scenery folder instead of the scenery/world.scenery folder?" Not directly into it. You create "scenery" folders within Addon Scenery, just like you would make a folder for an airfield or bit of landscape. For example "Traffic 1950s", "Traffic 1960s" as Kris was describing. In each you make the usual "scenery" subfolder (you don't need a "texture" subfolder). You can then drop plans for Ozark for each period into the appropriate scenery folder, together with other flightplan BGLs, and only switch on the decade you want, from the FS scenery library. In FS9, after switching on the period you want, and others off, you need to restart for the selection to take effect. There's another thread here retroai.proboards104.com/index.cgi?board=technical&action=display&thread=488 on this topic, which throws AFCADs into the mix.
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