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Post by cgold on Jan 21, 2013 18:42:54 GMT -5
I've also been doing some "deductive" reasoning on how these various flavors were created... QuebecAir aircraft got turned over to Inter-Canadi<n (express aircraft) or mainline Canadi<n (737's)... Canadian Pacific(que) was a more current CP Air-like fleet out of Western Canada (CYVR)... RZJets.net is helping me massively... I do have a "work-in-progress" list on the Canadian fleet (using A.net and RZjets for reg's) and flightplans that closely mimick what Canadi<n (and its various flavors of delicousness) might have done in the early-to-mid 90's... Granted, the flightplans are *NOT* mine... they are for pure stand in purposes. I do not claim any credit to the creation of these FP's... All I did was find the correct reg's for the aircraft I could find. (Some of my notes are still in there... pardon them, please. )
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Post by peterliddell on Jan 22, 2013 9:53:55 GMT -5
Ok well... you partially got Quebecair right... the Express ops went to Inter Quebec Corp, the 737s went to Nordair, Nordair went to Canadian Pacific. But i've not been able to find any Canadian/Nordair hybrids... It seems that they were all redone into the Canadian Pacific/que blue colors prior to the merger.
Inter Quebec became Inter-Canadi<n, and later Intair, then back to Inter-Canadi<n, then bust.
The only other "pre-merger" that DID generate hybrids was EPA... All the other hybrids were PWA or CP (or WD later)...
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Post by peterliddell on Jan 22, 2013 15:21:45 GMT -5
I think that's about right... I'm also narrowing down where all of the express aircraft were based out of... Ill save you some time: Canadi<n (Mainline) (based country-wide) 747-400's* DC-10-30's* 767-300's* 737-200's* 737-300 (hybrid only)A310's (Wardair hybrids) A320's* Time Air - Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Lethbridge Fokker F-28's* CV-640's Dash-7-100's Dash-8-100's* Dash 8-300 Shorts 360 Ontario Express ("Canadi<n Partner") - Toronto Jetstream 31's EMB-120's ATR-42's Inter-Canadi<n - Montreal, Quebec City, Toronto Fokker F-28's* Fokker F-100's 737-200's Metro's CV-580's* ATR-42's Canadi<n Holidays - Toronto winter, Vancouver summer 737-200's* Canadi<n Air Cargo - Calgary 737-200F's* Air Atlantic - Halifax, St John's, Moncton, Montreal Dash-8-100's* Jetstream 41's BAe-146's Dash-7-100's(?) - never in CDN colorsCanadi<n Frontier Thunder Bay, Timmins Beech 1900C's* Beech 99 Cessna 402 CalmAir - WinnipegH.S. 748's* SaaB-340's L-188's - Ice Patrol - MontrealCanadi<n Pacific(que) NOT SUB, Canadian Pacific Airlines pre merger, NationwideDC-10-30's* 737-200's* 737-300's* Ontario Regional (" Canadi<n Regional") (based country-wide) - Later merged express op - used Ontario Regional cert but never called that. Fokker F-28's Beech 1900C's and D's - Operated by Air Georgian, not CDN Regional Dash-8-100's Dash-8-300's Shorts 360's Only ever operated by Time Air ATR-42's
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Post by cgold on Jan 23, 2013 2:05:58 GMT -5
AC#1,03,1%,12Hr,VFR,07:09:05,07:23:51,070,F,0021,CYTS,17:09:33,17:24:19,070,F,0022,CYSB,07:14:00,07:30:00,070,F,0023,CYAM,17:14:28,17:29:14,070,F,0024,CYQT AC#1,01,1%,4Hr,VFR,08:59:14,010:45:00,070,F,0001,CYTS,12:59:42,14:45:28,070,F,0002,CYOW AC#1,02,1%,8Hr,VFR,07:04:10,08:18:56,070,F,0011,CYQT,10:04:38,13:19:24,070,F,0012,CYXD,15:09:33,17:24:19,070,F,0013,CYWG AC#1,04,1%,4Hr,VFR,07:14:00,09:30:00,070,F,0031,CYQT,11:14:28,13:29:14,070,F,0032,CYWG AC#1,05,1%,8Hr,VFR,07:18:56,09:34:55,070,F,0041,CYTS,10:19:24,12:34:10,070,F,0000,CYMO,13:19:24,15:34:10,070,F,0000,CYAT AC#1,06,1%,8Hr,VFR,07:23:51,09:39:51,070,F,0051,CYQT,10:24:19,12:39:05,070,F,0052,CYXL,14:24:19,16:39:05,070,F,0053,CYTL AC#1,10,1%,8Hr,VFR,07:44:46,09:59:32,070,F,0061,CYQT,11:44:00,13:00:00,070,F,0062,CYAM,15:44:00,17:00:00,070,F,0063,CYXU AC#1,07,1%,12Hr,VFR,07:30:00,09:44:46,070,F,0000,CYQT,10:29:14,11:44:00,070,F,0000,CYAC,12:30:00,13:44:46,070,F,0000,CZRJ,14:29:14,15:44:00,070,F,0000,CZMD AC#1,08,1%,12Hr,VFR,07:34:55,09:49:41,070,F,0000,CYQT,10:54:10,11:58:56,070,F,0000,CYXL,12:30:00,13:44:46,070,F,0000,CYAC,14:29:14,15:44:00,070,F,0000,CYRL AC#1,09,1%,12Hr,VFR,07:39:51,09:54:37,070,F,0000,CYQT,10:39:05,11:53:51,070,F,0000,XYRL,12:30:00,13:44:46,070,F,0000,CYPM,14:29:14,15:44:00,070,F,0000,CZSJ
How do these look? These are very rough FP's with no reg's and rudimentary flight #'s and alt's. But the airports are all in order to what you posted earlier.
(CYTS-CYCN-CYMO-CZKE-CYFA-CYAT-CYWN) Couldn't do - MRAI didn't want to do it... X-/
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Post by peterliddell on Jan 23, 2013 8:56:37 GMT -5
Well if you want, but many of the flights were 2-3x weekly, they only had about 5 planes max, and for the period i posted the fleet was 1 B1900C, 2 B99, 2 C402C (and one B1900C(F) ). I wish i had a timetable for them... I might do a Northern Frontier flightplan set (pre-CDN) from 86, but it was a different airline then, all YTS based, up both coasts of the bays, plus some flights to YSB. MRAI won't know CYWN most likely, the whole town was moved/renamed in the late 80s after a flood. Winisk basically became Peawanuck
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Post by cgold on Jan 23, 2013 14:50:03 GMT -5
MRAI seems to be working with me now... Here is one example:
AC#1,CP1900C,1%,WEEK,IFR,1/14:15,@1/17:15,100,F,0001,CYWG,2/19:15,@2/20:15,100,F,0002,CYQT,3/14:15,@3/17:15,100,F,0001,CYWG,4/19:15,@4/20:15,100,F,0002,CYQT,5/14:15,@5/17:15,100,F,0001,CYWG,6/19:15,@6/20:15,100,F,0002,CYQT
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