Gulf Air Summer 1989 - please check and help

[sunking]

Hello there.

I am trying to finish another area on the globe - namely the near and middle east - while waiting for OAG to pass me over the Indonesian data.

However, Gulf Air has turned into a big headache as many flights seem non-existant or falsely or somewhat else. In any way, I can not sort out the errors, as all flights I entered were eff. 21 June 1989 and in the legs page from my OAG. I know, that the 8XXX flights are non existant, as they cover up many other flights and seem more for interline purposes. I checked out with an FRA timetable from that summer and figured out that the dates or days are right: 13567 in both ways.

When I try to compile with phantasy flights, I get 2 or 3 additional aircraft. So, 11x L-1011´s instead of 9 - their fleet as of 1989 was:

9x L-1011 Tristar
6x Boeing 767-300
8x Boeing 737-200

I am - also after a personal loss within the family - at the end of my knowledge and would kindly like to request some assistance in finishing it up. I need help only for the GF flights, as for EK and WY I could solve myself.

Here is the file: www.dropbox.com/s/aa0c7ywajcok4u4/UAE_SU1989.zip

Please help me to complete this airline. If I wanted the OAG data, this airline alone would be quite pricy due to its size. Any help to finish it up is appreciated.

[peterliddell]

With a little tweaking, I got you to 9 L10, 9 732, 6 763
9 732 should be perfectly valid, I show them having 10 in service between 5/89 and 12/89
edit: i see why I show 10... 9 is correct, A40-BK was written off but still registered.


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[cgold]

There was a 757-200 (freighter?), a 707 freighter, and one 747-200 in the fleet right around this time as well. - I could draw up some FP's for those if someone was willing to paint them... ;D

[sunking]

Peter! Thanks so much for helping that fast - I was baffled as I sat on it for two weeks.

Just a small thing: KSDA seems to be in the US, isn't it? I must have made that mistake, as it was Baghdads former airport code - SDA. Anyone knows the new one?

I must change it with the Iraqi fps as well then. Oh boy....I am very sorry. I never really noticed it.

But, thank you so much, Peter. There are simply no words to express my feels.

Kind regards.

[peterliddell]

SDA is now BGW, but still ORBI.
I didn't notice it... I'll fix it up for you tomorrow, I'll have to recompile the plans. Weird that it didn't flag anything for MRAI though... I only had the typical issues, plane mismatches, duplicate runs... nothing really.

And stuff like this im happy to help on... it's one of those things i find satisfying when it all compiles

[peterliddell]

Fixed 737 plans, with ORBI specified it works with 8 737s

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[wernerw]

In my FS2004 there is no airport called ORBI just ORBS.
For our retro flight plans this would bei correct up to 2003. Why changing it?

[sunking]

Yes Werner, that is true. But, FSX doesn´t know ORBS anymore - it is non-existant - and thus as well as the fact that only the code and not the location has changed, it seems better to do it that way. You can replace the ORBI with ORBS, if you desire with the text editor. If it was VHHH, I would change it to VHHX again since the old airport was in use that time.

Peter, I am so greatfull that you are helping me with this one and it ashames me to write this, but have you noticed the overly long flight times from OMAA to OISS -> GF572/573? I have never noticed it until I did Iran Air just after the UAE and stumbled over the solution:

Iran had no Daylight Saving Time from 1979 until Rafsanjaris time in the 90s. And since this are summer timetable we usually set the marker at "Use Daylight Saving Time" - which in turn will send out an error or compile it wrongly. What I did with Iran Air was to split the European and Asian flights away from the Gulf Area flights - compilling the latter ones without DST (it does not matter for that area).

Old flights:
AC#1,N92TA,1%,WEEK,IFR,1/18:25,@2/13:20,370,F,0573,OMAA,3/09:15,@3/17:10,360,F,0572,OISS,5/20:40,@6/15:35,370,F,0573,OMAA,0/11:30,@0/19:25,360,F,0572,OISS

New flights:
AC#,GFL10,1%,WEEK,IFR,3/09:15,@3/10:40,360,F,0572,OISS,3/11:55,@3/13:20,370,F,0573,OMAA,0/11:30,@0/12:55,360,F,0572,OISS,0/14:10,@0/15:35,370,F,0573,OMAA

I am so greatfull and yet sorry for writing the above now only.....

Kind regards.

[peterliddell]

As I just told Sunking via PM...
I'm recovering from Surgery on Tuesday, which had complications, and i will get to these when I can but I don't know when I'll have the energy to. Right now I have to concentrate on swallowing and not getting an infection.

[cgold]

oh my... Yes. You rest up and take care.

[sunking]

Yes, pleass take care and rest and have a good recovery. That is more important.

[sunking]

Wernerw: I made a mistake and appologize for it. In fact, ORBS is in FS9 and ORBS is in FS2004. I checked my Iraqi plans and they had ORBS in the FS9 version and ORBI in the FSX version. Thus, I will leave it as is with ORBS (FS9) and run it through a programm to convert it into FSX standarts - which will change automatically into ORBI.

Although it does not make any difference in fact as one can use either or, by adding or changing the - possibly - missing airport code, as the coordinates did not change at all.

No worries, you can use the plans without problems.

[peterliddell]

Ok I don't get why but I'm having all kinds of issues with this fix... if i adjust the Iranian timezones it goes FuBAR on routings... I'll see what else i can do with some adjustments.

[sunking]

Dear Peter.

I really appreciate your assistance, despite being in a not so good state of health. I hope you are doing much better now?

Please take your time with it, as I had a lot of problems with it, too. But, it'd be a great supprise, if I could try them out before my studies commence again next week. Nevertheless, thanks a lot.

Kind regards.

[sunking]

@all: could someone by any chance have a look at the added in Saudia flightplans? The errors are mainly between Dharan/Dammam (DMM), Riyadh and Jeddah with the aircraft. Saudia's fleet was according to JP 89-90:

11x A300
17x 737
17x L1011
8x 747-100
2x 747SP
10x 747-300

The link can be found in the starting post.

I feel ashamed to ask your assistance. But, I have been sitting on the errors for two weeks now and it frustrates me, that OAG had so many errors in it.....

Your help is greatly appreciated and I hope to be able to help you one day.

Kind regards