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Post by Ralf Maylin on May 14, 2011 2:29:07 GMT -5
The new madness has started, American Airlines winter 94/95. Many thanks to Jason for his help with the metal textures.
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Post by Ralf Maylin on May 14, 2011 14:40:49 GMT -5
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Post by yukontrader on May 15, 2011 12:24:09 GMT -5
Fantastic Ralf! Looking forward to this one!
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Post by chrisP on May 15, 2011 14:41:11 GMT -5
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Post by Ralf Maylin on May 15, 2011 15:04:16 GMT -5
Many thanks for this one, once again the "preview testing" works.
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Post by Ralf Maylin on May 18, 2011 7:17:01 GMT -5
The eagle has white outlines now. Painting these birds is fun! The MD11, F100 and B722 were missing but I decided to paint the complete fleet in the same look. PS: A shame that they are coke cans now.
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Post by chrisP on May 18, 2011 9:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by peterliddell on May 18, 2011 10:00:17 GMT -5
Metal is a pain in the arse... took me years or trial and error to get anything acceptable and reproducible, and even that doesn't satisfy some people. Problem is that metal is reflective and FS does not do a realistic job with reflections, and worse the reflection it does do is totally flat, which no real plane is (rivets, swells/dents, buffing marks, different polishing directions, etc).
You are doing fine for now, at least they don't look like the dreaded aluminum foil effect.
And even worse, different airlines have different looking metal, compare the old USAir and Eastern with American. AA tends to look more blue than EA or US did. Another issue is if the aircraft was ever painted, it will look duller than one delivered unpainted from the factory (compare EA 757s with the 727s, you'll see the difference). The more recent paint and paint removal techniques mitigate that alot though, the AA ex-TWA S80 fleet does not look noticeably different than the rest of the AA MD80 fleet.
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Post by chrisP on May 18, 2011 10:11:49 GMT -5
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Post by peterliddell on May 18, 2011 10:59:59 GMT -5
Im not saying its a heavy blue effect, but if you can ever find a pic (there are a very few running around) of EA and AA in the same frame, you'll see what i mean. I have one shot of EA at DFW, 727-200s right next to each other, all the AA ones are the same shade, the EA one is slightly but noticeably more grey. It's as far as i can tell something to due with the buffing process AA uses. EA did the bare minimum prior to applying sealant, AA seems to do more and that's probably where the difference comes in, or maybe it is the clear coat itself that's slightly different. US vs AA... not the best but I can't find any others. Stare at this, and i mean really stare at it, and you'll start to notice the slightly more blue tint on the 727... www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(American-Airlines)/Boeing-727-223-Adv/0328235/L/Now could it be the blue stripes causing a camera effect, maybe, but they are overlapping so i would think any such effect would spread to the 737? Like i said US it is less noticable but it is still there. Also again Ralf they are looking really good, please don't think I'm snipping
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Post by chrisP on May 18, 2011 12:55:18 GMT -5
Look at the pic, see the different blues. Hide the red fuselage stripe with your hand, and look at the pic again. Same blue. Optical illusion.
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Post by peterliddell on May 18, 2011 13:22:13 GMT -5
I still see different colors slightly, but like i said, metal is one of the those highly subjective things, and too many factors influence what people see. Anyways, I think we've derailed this thread quite far enough, I'll be happy to discuss it more in another thread if anyone wishes.
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Post by Ralf Maylin on May 20, 2011 13:33:21 GMT -5
Many thanks for all the constructive ideas and the links, I will check it all and see what I can improve.
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Post by chrisP on May 21, 2011 7:31:15 GMT -5
lol!
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Post by eduardo85 on May 23, 2011 18:18:00 GMT -5
Great work Ralf, I'll look forward the release. Great job, Ralf. I sure hope someone makes a new MD-11 model before I die; the FSP one is very long in the tooth, to say the least. Indeed. In addition to that, FSP is only one model with PW engines and for some cases a GE model is needed which is not provided by FSP. Hopefully someone will come up with a new model. Regards Eduardo
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