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Post by Nilsfr91 on Aug 3, 2022 4:07:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I barely follow all that lol I'll need a tutorial from the internet somewhere to ever figure that out. Really cool project and good work! Looking forward to these, as even for my early 2000's ai World most of the sceneries for P3Dv4 are way too modern (for example Jetstream's LFPO and Taxi2Gate LFPG). If one day your project includes thé Aerosoft LFPO scenery I'll be over the moon haha. Sadly, even in v4 I couldn't get LFPO to work right...I did make a P3Dv3 version of the default airport for myself, not sure if I still have it. I love LFPO and want retro versions of that and LFPG when I can figure it out. For now, I could just do what I can with the modern buildings and layout like I've done for ORD, MSP, SFO ect. Yeah I guess it's quite the hassle to make a fsx scenery work in v4/v5. I actually managed to install Aerosoft's LFPO in my P3Dv4 months ago, but without any adaptions it wasn't worth it as thé custom ground and taxiway/runway textures showed only after the first load of thé scenery, + only static jetways. The worst of it is that Orly basically looked visually the same from the late 80's to the vert late 2010's (at least regarding the terminals, runway, hangars, even the small open air museum next to one of the runways (featuring a prototype concorde, a Mercure, several Mirage..). But just after v4 was released and when Jetstream Designs started developing their scenery, the company who owns the real airport and the French state started their big renovation of Orly (New junction terminal, a bigger sattelite for the old "South" terminal, a multimodal public transportation hub, blablabla..
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Post by sakura on Aug 8, 2022 9:29:14 GMT -5
TBH even with parking issues I would kill to have any retro planes as ai in MSFS.
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Post by chasensfo on Aug 8, 2022 20:42:50 GMT -5
TBH even with parking issues I would kill to have any retro planes as ai in MSFS. Someone was down to pay me $700 to try and convert retro AI traffic, but its not even worth days of my life at this point. I don't care how pretty the graphics are, the game is just STUPID when it comes to AI. Most taxiways aren't connected so AI gets stuck, cars get confused and taxi like planes, the radius of gates at many airports is all messed up so most larger planes won't load AT ALL let alone on the wrong gates, and very hard at the moment to stop GA planes from parking on gates, airliners at cargo, etc. Plus very few aircraft work, and many that do have issues like the wheels don't go up, flaps don't come down, all the lights are always on, only the nosewheel shows up, all sorts of stuff. AIG said at this point, only the developer can fix all this, not people like us. So...P3Dv5 will be here a while. MSFS is cool and all for flying around in GA but I barely touch it, because everything beyond graphics feels better in P3Dv5 still. Most of the planes sold for it are so watered down and fake too...can't understand WHY they're determined to make it a game instead of a sim...hate them for it. Basically, they were just like "What? People play the game offline?". Clowns. Even worse that 3rd party developers aren't bothering to map their airports for AI traffic either... Really pisses me off, so much potential in this sim but they'd rather make it a pretty arcade game than a complex sim. They flat out said they're trying to appeal to people who wouldn't be interested in a difficult sim, the second I saw there was an Xbox version, I knew this would be bad lol. I mean, the ATC, what the hell? "Continue as planned". Uh, no, that isn't what they tell you... Then again I guess not everybody flies planes and has controlled them as ATC in real life so I acknowledge I want more out of it than most people, but so do all the people who spend lots of money on addons right? LOL. Breeding a whole new generation of magenta line following autopilot manipulators instead of aviators with all the ridiculous avionics in the default GA planes too. For now, literally your best bet is just to download retro A320NEO liveries and delete the default liveries so you see Northwest, United, BA, whatever in the 90s or 2000s colors all over.
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Post by sakura on Sept 12, 2022 15:04:16 GMT -5
TBH even with parking issues I would kill to have any retro planes as ai in MSFS. Someone was down to pay me $700 to try and convert retro AI traffic, but its not even worth days of my life at this point. I don't care how pretty the graphics are, the game is just STUPID when it comes to AI. Most taxiways aren't connected so AI gets stuck, cars get confused and taxi like planes, the radius of gates at many airports is all messed up so most larger planes won't load AT ALL let alone on the wrong gates, and very hard at the moment to stop GA planes from parking on gates, airliners at cargo, etc. Plus very few aircraft work, and many that do have issues like the wheels don't go up, flaps don't come down, all the lights are always on, only the nosewheel shows up, all sorts of stuff. AIG said at this point, only the developer can fix all this, not people like us. So...P3Dv5 will be here a while. MSFS is cool and all for flying around in GA but I barely touch it, because everything beyond graphics feels better in P3Dv5 still. Most of the planes sold for it are so watered down and fake too...can't understand WHY they're determined to make it a game instead of a sim...hate them for it. Basically, they were just like "What? People play the game offline?". Clowns. Even worse that 3rd party developers aren't bothering to map their airports for AI traffic either... Really pisses me off, so much potential in this sim but they'd rather make it a pretty arcade game than a complex sim. They flat out said they're trying to appeal to people who wouldn't be interested in a difficult sim, the second I saw there was an Xbox version, I knew this would be bad lol. I mean, the ATC, what the hell? "Continue as planned". Uh, no, that isn't what they tell you... Then again I guess not everybody flies planes and has controlled them as ATC in real life so I acknowledge I want more out of it than most people, but so do all the people who spend lots of money on addons right? LOL. Breeding a whole new generation of magenta line following autopilot manipulators instead of aviators with all the ridiculous avionics in the default GA planes too. For now, literally your best bet is just to download retro A320NEO liveries and delete the default liveries so you see Northwest, United, BA, whatever in the 90s or 2000s colors all over. Ooof..Don't understand the Hostile post to me but ok. Sad to say we are a dying breed and wether we like it or not MSFS is the only way forward when it comes to support and third party Devs and even most freeware. I understand your gripes and most are the same with me, lack of good AI, flight dynamics and ATC being the biggest issues as well but this seems to be what newer simmers and Asobo want. As well as the console market..At least for us we Still have things like PMDG and Such. *shrugs* Has anyone even heard what LM's intentions are going forward with P3D these past months?
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Post by chasensfo on Sept 12, 2022 17:33:02 GMT -5
Someone was down to pay me $700 to try and convert retro AI traffic, but its not even worth days of my life at this point. I don't care how pretty the graphics are, the game is just STUPID when it comes to AI. Most taxiways aren't connected so AI gets stuck, cars get confused and taxi like planes, the radius of gates at many airports is all messed up so most larger planes won't load AT ALL let alone on the wrong gates, and very hard at the moment to stop GA planes from parking on gates, airliners at cargo, etc. Plus very few aircraft work, and many that do have issues like the wheels don't go up, flaps don't come down, all the lights are always on, only the nosewheel shows up, all sorts of stuff. AIG said at this point, only the developer can fix all this, not people like us. So...P3Dv5 will be here a while. MSFS is cool and all for flying around in GA but I barely touch it, because everything beyond graphics feels better in P3Dv5 still. Most of the planes sold for it are so watered down and fake too...can't understand WHY they're determined to make it a game instead of a sim...hate them for it. Basically, they were just like "What? People play the game offline?". Clowns. Even worse that 3rd party developers aren't bothering to map their airports for AI traffic either... Really pisses me off, so much potential in this sim but they'd rather make it a pretty arcade game than a complex sim. They flat out said they're trying to appeal to people who wouldn't be interested in a difficult sim, the second I saw there was an Xbox version, I knew this would be bad lol. I mean, the ATC, what the hell? "Continue as planned". Uh, no, that isn't what they tell you... Then again I guess not everybody flies planes and has controlled them as ATC in real life so I acknowledge I want more out of it than most people, but so do all the people who spend lots of money on addons right? LOL. Breeding a whole new generation of magenta line following autopilot manipulators instead of aviators with all the ridiculous avionics in the default GA planes too. For now, literally your best bet is just to download retro A320NEO liveries and delete the default liveries so you see Northwest, United, BA, whatever in the 90s or 2000s colors all over. Ooof..Don't understand the Hostile post to me but ok. Sad to say we are a dying breed and wether we like it or not MSFS is the only way forward when it comes to support and third party Devs and even most freeware. I understand your gripes and most are the same with me, lack of good AI, flight dynamics and ATC being the biggest issues as well but this seems to be whatnewer simmers and Asobo want. As well as the console market..At least for us we Still have things like PMDG and Such. *shrugs* Has anyone even heard what LM's intentions are going forward with P3D these past months? It's a hostile post to MSFS like I always do because screw them for their AI engine LOL, nothing I said was about you but the topic. I always get pissed they took this visual work of art and made it an arcade game LOL. As soon as it seems worth the effort, I'll switch to MSFS for sure. To me, flying in different time periods realistically and seeing all my work is just worth more to me than what MSFS is at this point. One day it'll be the best sim ever if they clean it up...I want the game tot get better, I won't hold onto P3D when it does. But v5 has great performance which helps the decision.
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Post by chasensfo on Nov 4, 2022 5:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by bensplanes on Nov 4, 2022 6:24:50 GMT -5
Looks great! Loving the L-1011.
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